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Post by blessed on May 7, 2005 13:55:20 GMT -5
Some asked me the other day if I new what this was about I have been trying to figure it out but I cant.
Maybe you guys can help me here.
They asked me why this happend.
OK, let me see if I can put this down how I have it going through my head.......
The original twelve apostles evangelized the Jews. Paul was the one with the commission to evangelize the gentiles. How come the apostles (I know it wasn't all twelve of them) set up bishoprics in the five metropolitan areas of the time while Paul traveled the known world preaching to the gentiles? It seems their main focus was on the Jewish population. If that is so, why did the church recently say that you don't need to evangelize Jews. Wasn't that Peter's (the Church calls him the first pope) commission?
That is, if the ending of Mark (16:9 and on) is truly original or if a translator added it later (as some camps claim). If the ending of Mark weren't in the original gospel, and the apostles weren't given the great commision, then I can see why they set up their areas and stayed there. But that would mean they still were evangelizing Jews.
I know this doesn't look to clear (it doesn't to me), but I hope you understand the question I'm getting at- why did the church recently declare that Jews didn't need to be evangelized, when historically, the apostles were sent to do that?
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Post by Tree Of Life on May 7, 2005 14:27:03 GMT -5
blessed please open your PM first andreply and then we will engage you in conversation
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Post by Mystic Rose on May 9, 2005 12:53:10 GMT -5
You may continue to post blessed your status has been changed to Apostolic Catholic....
Any further problems please alert Our Lady of the Snows
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Post by blessed on May 9, 2005 14:01:33 GMT -5
Ok thank you both of you.
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Post by Mystic Rose on May 9, 2005 17:56:33 GMT -5
I am sorry blessed that no one has gotten back to you so far we shall see if we can get you someone to answer your question shortly please continue to check back... Unfortunately we have had to deal with some board issues that have kept us busy as of late. Please be patient with us during this time.
Mystic Rose
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Post by blessed on May 9, 2005 22:16:23 GMT -5
No problem understandable take your time
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Post by RoseofSharon on May 10, 2005 13:37:51 GMT -5
Some asked me the other day if I new what this was about I have been trying to figure it out but I cant. Maybe you guys can help me here. They asked me why this happend. OK, let me see if I can put this down how I have it going through my head....... The original twelve apostles evangelized the Jews. Paul was the one with the commission to evangelize the gentiles. How come the apostles (I know it wasn't all twelve of them) set up bishoprics in the five metropolitan areas of the time while Paul traveled the known world preaching to the gentiles? It seems their main focus was on the Jewish population. If that is so, why did the church recently say that you don't need to evangelize Jews. Wasn't that Peter's (the Church calls him the first pope) commission? That is, if the ending of Mark (16:9 and on) is truly original or if a translator added it later (as some camps claim). If the ending of Mark weren't in the original gospel, and the apostles weren't given the great commision, then I can see why they set up their areas and stayed there. But that would mean they still were evangelizing Jews. I know this doesn't look to clear (it doesn't to me), but I hope you understand the question I'm getting at- why did the church recently declare that Jews didn't need to be evangelized, when historically, the apostles were sent to do that? Hi! I don't believe the Church has said that any particular group of people does not need to be evangelized. Can you point to where you heard this? |
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Post by blessed on May 10, 2005 14:04:50 GMT -5
ok they guy that asked me that question also sent this to cause I asked him where he got the information and he said that he got the information from the RCC a couple of years ago. This is what he told me right here.
It's the RCC I'm speaking about. I've been told by RCC members, when I've asked about the primacy of Peter over the other 4 bishops, and they say that Christ handed the keys to the church to Peter, and therefore he was the first earthly head of the church (making him in effect the first pope).
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Post by RoseofSharon on May 10, 2005 18:10:48 GMT -5
ok they guy that asked me that question also sent this to cause I asked him where he got the information and he said that he got the information from the RCC a couple of years ago. This is what he told me right here. I have heard things like this before . . but when asked for the source of such information, they either are not able to provide it, or what they provide is taken out of context, and so they have misinterpreted what was written. I know of no Church document that says what this guy claims. That is the Catholic Church's teaching that Peter has a primacy over the other Apostles. |
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Post by blessed on May 10, 2005 19:22:13 GMT -5
So basiclly none of what he is asking me is true. that none of that ever happend at all.
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Post by RoseofSharon on May 11, 2005 12:29:35 GMT -5
So basiclly none of what he is asking me is true. that none of that ever happend at all. There is nothing that I know of that would support what you have been told.  |
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Post by Schola on Jul 6, 2005 20:16:22 GMT -5
No, the Church has never said this. The USCCB which hosts panels of Catholic thinkers wrote a reflection which was pulled by the bishops because it declared that Jews could remain in the old covenant and had no need of conversion. This ecumenical board published its work under the following title.
From Catholic Exchange:
"On August 12th, delegates from the Bishops’ Committee on Ecumenical and Interreligious Affairs (BCEIA), a sub-committee of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB), and the National Council of Synagogues released a document titled “Reflections on Covenant and Mission"
However, as noted, this was rejected and embarrassingly pulled.
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Post by Debbie on Jul 13, 2005 6:24:12 GMT -5
Hi Blessed,
I've never heard of what you have been told. I believe we are to share the good news to all... The Catholic Church also teaches this too.
God's Peace,
Debbie
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